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History of the 8 Series

Discussion in '7 and 8-Series' started by doublespaces, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. doublespaces

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    Good read
     
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    M8 was never released eh?

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    According to Wiki:

    And here:

    http://www.e31.net/models.html#850CSi

    What it actually looked like(prototype)
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    I won't post the VIN and this was a 1997 model, one of seven made that year. But it starts with WBS. One can say what one wants about the name (and marketing makes up the names). The "S" designates made by BMW Motorsport ... that's what matters. BTW I shot that photo on the east coast ...

    Filippo

    p.s. For those old enough to remember ... 1997 ... OBD-II mandate. There was never an OBD-II implementation for the S70.
     
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    It says they were labeled as M8 but it was nothing more than a fixed up 850. So technically I suppose you can say it was an M car, like the M235i.
     
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    Well the M235i has a WBA prefix. Not the same thing. Point is WBS is prefix for M division. What people want to call it as a name really doesn't matter. The S70 based 8 series cars were declared produced by the M division.

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    850csi With the 5.6L 375bhp Engine.

    Never regarded as an M car. even tho it did have the S engine code. Still nothing like they originally planned to produce is it. 6.1L 550bhp with carbon manifold and runners. Could you even call the 850csi a watered down version of that! I personally don’t think so.

    You do make some interesting points about chassis number.

    I think bmw knew it wasn’t really worthy of an M badge
     
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    Funny part is ... it had a real M motor (S designation with proper M aspects) ... meanwhile we got the warmed over E36 325 with m-technic packaged, stroked the M50 2.5L naming it an S50B30US, and then stuck an M3 badge on it and shipped it to the US. Ostensibly the 330is and 332is and 332i that never were.

    That said, the 8 series is a pig. Always was. It was the 928 S4 of the BMW world. I'm not surprised they didn't make an M8 ala the prototype ... they sold few of the 8 series as it was. But it had a real M motor :)

    BTW no one seems to have connected 1997 model year 850CSi photographed on US soil ... there is a conundrum there if you can figure it out. And it is not the obvious conundrum.

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    So not the OBD II compliance?
     
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