Awesome! I’ll be installing my PR coils and new connectors next week. These pics are perfect so I’ll be checking the connectors before install.
N54 Precision Raceworks Ignition Group Buy! - DBV2
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Lol it's dark when it's 10pm and 100f degrees. Plenty of shade already from the planet.
Thankfully it's cooler today and even getting some sprinkles. I just took delivery of my replacement coil and two harnesses.
Check your harnesses folks.
Sure. I updated my earlier post showing the new incorrect pinout variation I received. Thankfully I have six correct ones.
You guys with the N55 location are going to need to trim down your airbox mounting post. Here are some pics of mine. If I'm in the area later and want to geekout and indulge the OCD I'll file it down more like it wasn't there. I did this the first night, with warm engine bay, 100f ambient temps, and a Dremel that thought it was a heat gun blowing out its vents.
I'm usually a lurker on this forum but this warrants a response. PR is stating that they still claim to have "zero natural failures for our coils even with almost 5,000 shipped!". A failure is defined as lack of success or not getting to the desired outcome. I'm not sure what a 'natural' failure is, though. BreakMyBillfold did not get the desired outcome with his kit, and a lack of success is present. In my opinion, when PR states "our coils", this should include the shipped harness, at least in this statement, since it is part of the system they're shipping. Presenting BreakMyBillfold with a harness that was wired incorrectly is defined as a failure in the system (again, I am assuming that the term "our coils" includes the harness as they should be making the claim to encompass their product as a system, not just the coil). Not only do they have a failure, they have two known failures now, and both have been sent to BreakMyBillfold. It's a little unclear from his response above stating "Check your harnesses folks", but that's the replacement harness that was sent, and yes, with incorrect wiring yet again. I have nothing against PR or their product, but making the claim that they have zero natural failures is incorrect, unless natural failures is being defined differently that how most understand it as. Even if the term is being defined as such not to include the harness, then by all means, they're correct, but that's silly to exclude the harness from that claim. My $0.02.
Okay, well Robert has already conceded that there can be some incorrect pinouts in the batch of harnesses, so while it's interesting that I would get two of them and the second one was sent after the awareness was raised, it's not like we're piling on a gaggle of different issues.
I think it's similar to getting a ticket for an equipment violation, say too dark tinted windows, and then getting pulled over again before your court date for the same issue. I'd say it's reasonable to count two wrong harnesses being shipped as examples of the same issue.
I'd probably feel differently if I didn't also receive a good one with the replacement shipment today. I received a coil, a spark plug cable, and two harnesses. Sent next day air immediately upon notification of the problem. One of the two harnesses was made wrong, with white and orange swapped on the non-coil end as opposed to the brown and orange swapped which fried the coil and (hopefully just) blew the fuse in my DME box.
If I had been shipped only one replacement harness and it was also wrong, I suppose I could easily feel kind of slapped in the face and start questioning my decision about going with their product.
But, since mistakes can happen, I think it's very important, maybe most important, how a company responds when it happens. Robert has been very attentive to my getting the car back up so far. I think it would be nice if everything was perfect, but to me this is the next best thing.
While I agree with ksalih99's idea of what a failure is, I also recognize that Robert is talking about the robustness of his coils, and once I get the right harnesses and things are working, that will pretty much be my main or only concern. So it's good info and important, but the harness pinout issue still needs attention and I have every expectation that it will get it.
I think it's similar to getting a ticket for an equipment violation, say too dark tinted windows, and then getting pulled over again before your court date for the same issue. I'd say it's reasonable to count two wrong harnesses being shipped as examples of the same issue.
I'd probably feel differently if I didn't also receive a good one with the replacement shipment today. I received a coil, a spark plug cable, and two harnesses. Sent next day air immediately upon notification of the problem. One of the two harnesses was made wrong, with white and orange swapped on the non-coil end as opposed to the brown and orange swapped which fried the coil and (hopefully just) blew the fuse in my DME box.
If I had been shipped only one replacement harness and it was also wrong, I suppose I could easily feel kind of slapped in the face and start questioning my decision about going with their product.
But, since mistakes can happen, I think it's very important, maybe most important, how a company responds when it happens. Robert has been very attentive to my getting the car back up so far. I think it would be nice if everything was perfect, but to me this is the next best thing.
While I agree with ksalih99's idea of what a failure is, I also recognize that Robert is talking about the robustness of his coils, and once I get the right harnesses and things are working, that will pretty much be my main or only concern. So it's good info and important, but the harness pinout issue still needs attention and I have every expectation that it will get it.
Coil as in coil i think they meant coils failing. Like the ones we swap out periodically
I certainly agree with what you're saying, but I wasn't commenting on how great PR is being with the issue (and they are doing a great job)! I am merely looking at the claim being made, and providing reason for why it's false as I understand it. PR's fantastic customer service to you, while important and helps make the issue better, should not take away from the fact that you're received a failure (harness is part of the system!) from them.
Bah, I hear what you're saying and agree, but it should be known that there are "System" failures, then.
Yes, the point is taken that when the coil fried and I wasn't able to drive my car (due, hopefully only, to not knowing where the blown fuse is), that it made no difference in my ability to travel from point A to point B whether it was because of a coil being bad or a harness being bad. Walking is walking, or at least it would be.
I guess I'm a little jaded because a lot can happen and I still find myself thinking about how it could be worse and trying to look on the bright side.
It would appear that making announcements of product mishaps is bad for business. So companies tend not to do that, and usually deal with issues with customers 1 on . Im sure you could relate if you have an issue while conducting business with another person. Its a common business practice. It becomes an issue when they try to hide it, fail to correct issue. Or flat out ignore you
Yes, mishaps are not good PR. ba-dum-tish!
I'm glad Precision Raceworks is stepping up. While I'll admit the harness issue caught me off guard, surprised, their 1st class handling of it is not a surprise. I'm sure all their customers are in good hands.
I'll get to working on my car shortly. Things are looking up.
Yikes again! I think PR should send an email to those who ordered it to double check the wiring. I understand they may not want to but if they dont they will be warranting many broken ones costing them money. They should also have an employee go over all the current harnesses and fix any that need to be fixed. Hopefully your car starts with it all working again and your fuses replaced.
Will the n55 kit on the n54 allow you to put the engine cover back on?
Am i on the extended wait list or on the now shipping list. Im going to burn car if i get another misfire with a .18 gap
