N54 Stock DME Flex Fuel

[fmorelli]

Tony, this is good to hear and exactly what I was hoping for, practicality-wise. In my case (and I suspect there are many others in this situation) while I have access to ethanol it is not prevalent everywhere I drive. So the ability to use the car regardless of ethanol mix becomes very practical. I'm patiently waiting

BTW Tony, single barrel arrived and while the product looks superb, I have to say that packaging was on par with the hardware. Nicely done!

Filippo

 

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

Tony, this is good to hear and exactly what I was hoping for, practicality-wise. In my case (and I suspect there are many others in this situation) while I have access to ethanol it is not prevalent everywhere I drive. So the ability to use the car regardless of ethanol mix becomes very practical. I'm patiently waiting

BTW Tony, single barrel arrived and while the product looks superb, I have to say that packaging was on par with the hardware. Nicely done!

Filippo

Thank you for the kind words sir! We try to put our best foot foward with packaging whenever we can! It makes everything that much more appealing!

 

[Ilkka]

Well done Jyamona!

 

[Cheezy]

@jyamona basically just said merry christmas! I cant wait for the end result and complete pnp packages!

 

[Omar@VaderSolutions]

you guys will be selling the sensor as well or will any continental ethanol sensor work ?

 

[335i_lou]

YESSSSS!!! I can’t wait!!

 

[fmorelli]

Sensor info is in the thread.

Filippo

 

[Jeffman]

Awesome. Can’t wait. I’m in the same boat as Filippo - because E85 is now only sparsely available in my area I’d love to splash it in whenever I can without having to reflash.

 

[Jake@MHD]

you guys will be selling the sensor as well or will any continental ethanol sensor work ?

Flex fuel itself will be a module in MHD. Then there will be different hardware packs depending on what you need:
- ECA only
- ECA + fuel line & sensor
- ECA, fuel line kit, and tune

Any continental / GM sensor will work, but you must be certain that it is genuine. There are a bunch of Chinese clones floating around (ebay *cough cough*) that are not calibrated correctly, and will mess things up

 

[Omar@VaderSolutions]

Flex fuel itself will be a module in MHD. Then there will be different hardware packs depending on what you need:
- ECA only
- ECA + fuel line & sensor
- ECA, fuel line kit, and tune

Any continental / GM sensor will work, but you must be certain that it is genuine. There are a bunch of Chinese clones floating around (ebay *cough cough*) that are not calibrated correctly, and will mess things up

sweet... dont forget the promise you made joe josh and I lol

 

[doublespaces]

I want to take a moment to point out a new feature on the board, we have something called "Threadmarks". Which is essentially a bookmark within a thread. OPs and mods can mark posts as a 'threadmark' if it has notable information so people can quickly find it later inside multi page threads.

 

[Cheezy]

I want to take a moment to point out a new feature on the board, we have something called "Threadmarks". Which is essentially a bookmark within a thread. I can mark posts as a threadmark if it has notable information so people can quickly find it later inside multi page threads. This will only be present when I've marked posts specifically, but I'll be rolling this out to all OP's soon.

What a wonderful feature.

 

[langsbr]

I want to take a moment to point out a new feature on the board, we have something called "Threadmarks". Which is essentially a bookmark within a thread. OPs and mods can mark posts as a 'threadmark' if it has notable information so people can quickly find it later inside multi page threads.

Sitting here waiting for Jake to threadmark the Official for sale post for flex fuel

 

[Abacus38]

Im just wondering how this is going to intergrate with Shotgun or PI systems

 

[langsbr]

My assumption would be that you would have to load a different PI program to the controller, so it may not be transparent. But with a single shotgun, it should not have any impact, right? Since it's letting the DME control it completely - there's not even any aux fueling. You may run into the same issues as with PI if using the double barrel.

Perhaps this system won't be recommended for the 700+ WHP systems, but to give the 600 and under crowd some flexibility. I'm sure it will all be addressed when it gets released. I heard thru the grapevine when it is due to be released, so hopefully there isn't much more waiting.

 

[Cheezy]

It shouldnt have any reflection on when you inject fuel tho. Atleast in my understanding of it, it wont. In the most basic terms it should just regulate afrs, timing, and load based on estimated octane rating.

 

[dyezak]

Im just wondering how this is going to intergrate with Shotgun or PI systems

Because you can account for all this on the DME side flash it'll be just fine. Just an additional tuning hurdle for your tuner.

 

[langsbr]

It shouldnt have any reflection on when you inject fuel tho. Atleast in my understanding of it, it wont. In the most basic terms it should just regulate afrs, timing, and load based on estimated octane rating.

It should definitely affect when you inject fuel. regulating afrs = modifying fueling. modifying timing = results in modified afr. The entire premise of this is that it will modify fueling and timing based on ethanol content.

Because you can account for all this on the DME side flash it'll be just fine. Just an additional tuning hurdle for your tuner.

How would you account for a secondary fuel injection control mechanism in the DME? It will be neat to see if/how this works with those running PI, but I'd be a bit apprehensive unless they have some way to modify the PI controller as well.

 

[Ilkka]

I'd opt for upgraded HPFP for higher WHP builds.

 

[dyezak]

You’re gonna make me type it out. I’ll have time to do this later today.