I run none of the oils listed. I run Schaeffers Supreme 9000 in all my boosted/performance engines.
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If it was part of my maintenance plan and was free I'd roll with it but I just couldn't see myself purchasing it with a smile on my face lol..
I have not but I know it's great stuff! Something makes me wanna say that VTT stands by that stuff hardcore! I could be wrong but I feel like I read that before
I know @Tony@VargasTurboTech is a huge voice for correct oils for the job.. I belive he even linked the FP report on his site for awhile. May still even be up! Hope it is, very important little read/results!
Here is the link, I totally forgot what my auto one trip consists of every time I go till I read this!
So I usually grab a gallon of t6 and 3 qrts of vr1 non synthetic in the summer I grab 3 of 20w50 and winter 10w30
If I forgot that I think it means it's time to change my oil (I don't drive my 335 much lol)
So I usually grab a gallon of t6 and 3 qrts of vr1 non synthetic in the summer I grab 3 of 20w50 and winter 10w30
If I forgot that I think it means it's time to change my oil (I don't drive my 335 much lol)
I use to use Schaeffer oil in my Supra a while ago, great oil. But isn't the Supreme 9000 a Diesel engine oil?
A lot of the good oils are diesel oils. What makes a diesel oil desirable is the high zinc and phosphorus content. What's known as your zddp package. This is your anti wear and friction additives. Excellent for an ICE but in 2006 the EPA said horrible for cat converters! So they limited gasoline engine oils to I believe 900ppm.
That's not enough for what we do to engines and turbos!! Now diesels don't have cats so they can have as much as they want.. Off road race oils can have as much as they want as well because they don't have cats. So using a diesel oil is just an economical way of getting more zddp into your oil.. Diesel oil does have more detergent which some would argue is great and some would argue is bad.. I think a little more detergent isn't the end of the world
Hope that cleared that up a bit for you
I'm really considering using Brad penn, it doesn't have any emission additives, it's made in my home town, and it's amazing + cheap. What else could anyone want?
Always used bmw oil from dealer Bc I got a nice discount but now I've switched to Liqui Moly 5w-40
Not a fan of anything listed. There is no real reason to run boutique oils its basically snake oil. People really like to make oil way more complicated than it is. 99.99% of the people on this forum don't do anything more with their car than some street racing. That's a far cry from race conditions where things like zddp additive can help buffer potential oil starvation issues (due to high g forces). Zddp additives aren't just bad for cats. Zinc also increases engine wear until the oil gets hot enough for the zinc to actually start working. Hence why it's still used in race oils where engine wear and cold starts is a non issue but catastrophic engine failure due to starvation is a real concern.
And for the drag strip guys, I know some old school hot rodders that would run straight 0 weight oil to get the most out of their engines.
N54 does have some real cooling issues stock, but unless your seeing 20+ straight minutes of oil temps over normal operating range of 250f then you have no reason to be using a thicker oil than specd. Yes, a higher quality oil (you dont necessarily need to run a thicker oil) will hold up better under that kind of high heat and shear but how many people here are endurance racing?
I run regular old tried and true castrol edge at hpde events and even after multiple track days and a few thousand road miles my oil is fine... That's with oil temps of 270f. I was at an event yesterday in 86f weather and oil pressure didnt drop off at all. A higher quality oil like redline might hold up longer across more hpde events, but edge is so damn cheap I can just change it after every event and get the same piece of mind if not more. I can change edge 4x for the cost of every 1x redline change... i knoe some the oils listed are cheaper than redline I was just using it as an example.
And for the drag strip guys, I know some old school hot rodders that would run straight 0 weight oil to get the most out of their engines.
N54 does have some real cooling issues stock, but unless your seeing 20+ straight minutes of oil temps over normal operating range of 250f then you have no reason to be using a thicker oil than specd. Yes, a higher quality oil (you dont necessarily need to run a thicker oil) will hold up better under that kind of high heat and shear but how many people here are endurance racing?
I run regular old tried and true castrol edge at hpde events and even after multiple track days and a few thousand road miles my oil is fine... That's with oil temps of 270f. I was at an event yesterday in 86f weather and oil pressure didnt drop off at all. A higher quality oil like redline might hold up longer across more hpde events, but edge is so damn cheap I can just change it after every event and get the same piece of mind if not more. I can change edge 4x for the cost of every 1x redline change... i knoe some the oils listed are cheaper than redline I was just using it as an example.
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I couldn't agree more with you when it comes to economics of oil lol
I have to disagree when it comes to what's needed in oil..
Like I said a few times above I like T6, it has everything you want in an oil without the price tag
I switched from Mobil1 when I'd was declassified as an LL01 oil. (I realizethat doesn't mean it's no longer a good oil overnight...) now running the German Castrol Edge 0W-40. So far I like it better. Seems to be no consumption where as I was always down a bit with the M1...
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Yes it is. And that's what makes it great. Especially Moreso for a DI engine where fuel oil dilution is an issue. IN which the Schaeffers is designed (one of many things it's designed to do) To combat against.
And also what was said above by @Bmwfixerguy1 there are more reasons than that though of why I run it. But it would take a while for me to find all the testing again.
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