Stett Performance Vacuum Canister Review

derekgates

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I'm sure I could make a couple! Also you never got back to me about the accusump/cooler setup!

I'm down for that!


hahaha, accusump is something I want for eventual track days but I am juggling quite a bit of work on the car including trying to resolve DCT clunks... :(

Trying to figure out a budget....
 

ShocknAwe

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Are there any downsides to having these on the cold side of the bay? I relocated mine to over the CP/alternator.
 

gmagnus7

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I've always thought about making my own and using a custom T from the vacuum pump to the brake booster and reservoir. Just been low on my priority list at the moment. Really cool though!
 

ajm8127

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Doesn't matter where they are as long as you have them.

Practically speaking I think this is correct and unless you were measuring waste gate actuator displacement versus opening of the solenoids you would probably never notice it. However, air does flow in these vacuum lines (from an open actuator to the vacuum reservoirs) so increasing their length will slow down the waste gate actuator transient response some. Whether that makes a difference in turbo spool is debatable.

The ones that are critical are from the waste gate actuators to the solenoids and from the solenoids to the vacuum reservoirs. So moving the reservoirs could slow down the waste gate actuator response.
 
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ajm8127

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Any tests showing bigger canisters are better?

I have never tested something like this, but I suspect marty is correct. The stock reservoirs are sized based on the wast gate actuators so unless you move to bigger actuators, the stock reservoir volume should be fine. You'd be most likely to run out of vacuum on a tight road course where there is a lot of on-off throttle driving that spools the turbos repeatedly. I suppose if you were spooling the turbos at low RPM that would be worst case because the flow of the vacuum pump is linked to the speed of the engine, though your RPMs shouldn't be too low if you are driving on a road course.

You could put a tee on one of the lines running from the reservoirs to the solenoids and hook up a vacuum gauge for testing if you were ever curious. I have no idea what would be an acceptable delta in vacuum pressure, but less is probably better. We would need data on the speed of the actuators versus vacuum pressure. Also important would be the clamping force of the actuators and the mechanical advantage of the wast gate flapper arm versus the waste gate area and exhaust manifold back pressure. The actuators need to be able to overcome the force generated by the back pressure on the waste gate plus the internal spring.

Recall that to overcome the spring and seat the wast gate the vacuum pressure applied to the actuator should be 5.9 in Hg (200 mbar below atmospheric according to TIS). Additional pressure is required to hold it closed due to exhaust manifold back pressure.

 

martymil

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Last time I checked the vacuum solenoids where holding anywhere from 15 to 21 in Hg stock at idle.

I was going to move the solenoids under the intake away from the heat to make them last longer but its a lot of effort for little to next to no gain.

This would also make the front and rear turbo vacuum lines the same length as the rear is about twice the length of the front one stock

So much to test, r&d and dyno sessions get expensive and unappreciated most of the time glad some others are doing it now
 
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screaminfast

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Made two boxes for vacuum canister. Just have to figure out where to mount it.

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