Based on your understanding of things I'm not inclined to give much credence to your opinion.
User Review - Wedge Performance vs. Twisted Tuning
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Based on your understanding of things I'm not inclined to give much credence to your opinion.
Slam your foot down... one goes way faster than the other map. One is lethargic and one is violent. No measurement is necessary if it is obvious.
MHD OTS tunes specifically state: "not optimized for inlet/outlet upgraded" - regardless, yes, I have tried them as well. They also feel "off" and rough... slam your foot on the floor and you get a nasty surprise with engine behavior... like it will explode.
Now... start from square one??? That makes no sense since I started from square one at the beginning. Guys, it's not like I with held info or goals from the start and tuners are trying to decipher some secret that I am not telling them.
It's very simple:
1. Wedge for me was unusable, even after 12 revisions - YES it had power, but was not usable as daily..unless I wanted to ignore the signs that the engine was making while on the tune. Slam on the gas and you get hesitation, choking, or explosion sounds... no thank you.
2. Twisted, feel much smoother and not damaging to engine, more controlled... now all we need to do is work to add more power.
If you have a great tune from Wedge, good for you. This report is not meant to push folks away from either one. There are some people who just want reports without allegiance to anyone. This is that report.
I literally have no understanding of tuning so that's good if you ignore me.
I am just reporting my experience, that's it.
Though I don't know anything about tuning...I am able to read...so thanks for letting me know what I already know. Please read the thread carefully before commenting, that way you don't waste your time writing things that have already been discussed.
What is wrong with some of these people? If you had a good experience with either tuner, then simply report your experience. I am not interested in debating anyone.
If you've got poor driveability with an MHD OTS tune, you've got something else going on. It should be seemless and powerful with no surprises. I suspect something else is going on that hasn't been sniffed out yet like a component that is faulty but not giving a CEL
Are you saying you are running OTS MHD with upgraded inlets/outlets?
How do you explain the restoration to normal gas mileage and drivability under the same mods with Twisted?
See what's going on here?
most likely the wgdc tables from the OTS maps is all off because inlets and outlets on his car. probably overboosting like crazy, but again, no log so this whole thread is based on speculation...
FYI op, seat of pants is not reliable for straighline performance. one car can feel a lot more violent due to sudden overboost and torque with a bad tune. does it mean it is faster than a tune with controlled boost and linear torque delivery, no...
I actually didn't say I was running anything. I'm running a custom tune by Wedge because I know him personally and ran a shop that did some work for him in the past. I've driven numerous Wedge tunes and have yet to see any negative results so I guess that's why I'm a little baffled.
cloud9blue makes a good point. I have yet to see a log posted. Not that I could do something with it, but there have been two software tuners post in this thread already that could probably take a peek and give some input.
So I am going to ask you now: Do you still think that I would have a hardware problem now that you know that I have upgraded inlets and outlets and the OTS MHD maps are not built for this configuration?
Don't be baffled... if you are used to breathing a certain rate and you take steriods that make you go insane with urgent energy, but you don't calibrate for the fact that you also got twice as much air capacity... your lungs would probably go crazy trying to breath the same rate as before your enhancements. Too much air is just as bad and not enough.
I don't know what a log post would do since Wedge has all my logs already. He probably has more authority on the logs than any of us and yet I have a set of maps that I cannot use. Meanwhile, under the exact same conditions, from base map to this fourth map..Twisted has managed to give me a drivable car...and now with the latest 4th map, the power feels fully restored and beyond Dinan S3. I still have to do logs for the latest Twisted so he can make any minor adjustments...but as of now, I feel that there's not much more to be done except for tweaks.
Well, Justin (V8bait) and cloud9blue both have posted in here and are also software tuners. Justin has done tunes for some very prominent N54 turbo companies with success and also had good luck with inlets and outlets on a stock turbo N54.
That's why I say post a log
So back to the question
Have you tried flashing an OTS map, like Stage 2+ on the car just to see what happens?
It takes less than a half an hour and you've already got full access to that if your getting MHD custom tunes so try that.
That's why I say post a log
So back to the question
Have you tried flashing an OTS map, like Stage 2+ on the car just to see what happens?
It takes less than a half an hour and you've already got full access to that if your getting MHD custom tunes so try that.
I answered that a while back. I have tried
All imaginable ots maps. Big cup of nope. And they just confirm the warnimg that they are not for upgraded inlets.
Latest revised map from Twisted is working well. Noticeable power oncrease and good control. Logged and will send to Twisted soon.
Comms with Justin at Twisted appear to be restored now that he is not distracted with personal issues. He has clarified that when he thinks the tuning is done, he will let me know.
Comms with Justin at Twisted appear to be restored now that he is not distracted with personal issues. He has clarified that when he thinks the tuning is done, he will let me know.
The tuning is NEVER done. Make sure you let him know that it's only done when every last mustang has fallen to your spinning turbos and the rivers run yellow with the corn husks sacrificed to fuel your beast.
Did this need to be said? I mean, I picked up on this from your initial post.
Remember guys, he said inlets and outlets don't make a difference, so fuck your dyno sheets that show gains.
How is it you come to this conclusion? What I report here only applies to my specific situation...not universally. Obviously there have been reports of gains from inlet and outlet upgrades...why the fuck would I have even suffered through installing them in the first place?
For one reason or another I saw zero benefit and actual retarded performance after installation..and that is what I reported.
If you have them and saw gains while on stockers, them simply post the info so peple like myself can benefit from your tuner.
In the meantime, take your incredulity and lack of understanding on my comments somewhere else.
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