What is the best BBK for the money?

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  1. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    I bumped into some threads where people have fabbed up brackets to run calipers from other cars like Porsche and CTS-V and ran them on other cars. I'd have concerns about how effective this would be and it got me wondering what our options are for a BBK for those that don't need the absolute best, but want a good upgrade?
     
  2. arsenalmse

    arsenalmse Private Vendor

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    I believe as of right now, those are the only two options for non-tradional bbk's. For fronts, you can find CTS-V 6-piston calipers for ~$800 plus cost of 380mm rotor. Then you have the Porsche 19z 6-pistion which varies in price and seems to depend on the day.
    Like you said, having to fabricate a mounting bracket, and you're almost at the same cost of a proper brake kit.

    If you're looking for a big brake kit that isn't so traditional for your BMW, I personally suggest Sparta Evolution brakes. Amazing heat dispersion and stopping power, and made for the car.

    http://store.arsenalmse.com/t/brake-kits

    Just my two cents, but curious to see what else is out there.
     
  3. DirtKurt

    DirtKurt Private Vendor

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    NH
    If your going to spend the money for a BBK and are concerned with performance and not just looking cool you need a true 2 piece floating rotor.
    I went with StopTech, but there also brembo, pfc, and many others.
     
  4. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    I haven't stumbled across any reviews for PFC, though I haven't been looking specifically. I'll have to do some more digging
     
  5. Look into R1 Concepts. They make great product at an affordable price...Sparta Evolution is another good lower priced alternative
     
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  6. DR-JEKL

    DR-JEKL Lurker

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    IMO stoptech produce the best BBK's that offer excellent build quality, great performance at a low entry level price.
     
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  7. ASquared

    ASquared Specialist

    I agree...look into R1 Concepts. They make excellent products and have top notch customer service. Their BBK is very customizable and looks amazing....just don't know the cost
     
  8. Worry about a BBK when you need it. Unless your getting it strictly for aesthetics.
    Typically a set of PFC 08 pads, stainless lines, Typ200 brake fluid and bronze brake pins will solve almost anyone's problem.
    IF the brake fluid still is being compromised (overheated) Titanium shims between the caliper piston and brake pad.
    IF that doesn't fix it, brake ducts to cool them.
    IF that doesn't fix it, a BBK or driving instruction is needed.
    Granted, we put temperature reactive paint on our rotors, pads, caliper pots and hubs so we can see how hot things get and if we're exceeding the zone of usefulness.
     
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  9. Actually, the cheapest BBK for our cars is putting the F30 Performance front brake calipers, rotors, rear calipers, keep stock size rear rotors and swap to M3 master cylinder. World of difference and I ran Stoptech rotors and pads prior to this upgrade. Not to mention, they feel much better to me than BBKs for our cars and I've driven a few different setups. Obviously that's my opinion and others will be different I'm sure.
     
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  10. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    Aren't there issues using a bbk from another car?
     
  11. Like what issues? The only thing is you have to make a couple modifications for the rear to work. The front is a direct bolt on. There are many people that have already performed this conversion. Supposedly you can just swap the front and they're fine but I can't comment on that myself as I did the full conversion.
     
  12. Brandin.byers

    Brandin.byers New Member

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  13. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    Did you do this for the rears or the shaving method? Posted by Wlodi:
     
  14. camberadam

    camberadam Corporal

    174
    09 Tasmin Green e92
    You can find new front & rear cts-v caliper sets for $1000-1200. I had considered F30 rotors for the front, but was still researching the rear because I want rotors to match. This post will definitely help looking up options.

    Brackets shouldn't be terribly hard. If there is some interest & we come up w/ a "parts list" I could design around; I could have brackets cut, then it'd be up to the user to shop for the rest of the list. :cool:
     
  15. Swedishpowah

    Swedishpowah Private

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    Greer, SC
    LCI e92 - not an M
    As Brett Sheppard said, the F30 fronts are a direct bolt on - no modifications needed whatsoever. I've just swapped the fronts and plan on machining the rears and use an e60 rear rotor. Currently looking into sourcing a master cylinder from an e92 M3 to improve pedal feel. It's a fairly inexpensive upgrade and you get 370mm front rotors and much better calipers. One thing to keep in mind, most OEM e92 18 inch wheels won't work. Apex arc-8 provide plenty of clearance. 20170805_114741.jpg
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  16. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    The machining necessary for the rears, mind taking some pics of that process?
     
  17. Swedishpowah

    Swedishpowah Private

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    Greer, SC
    LCI e92 - not an M
    I'm going to touch base with Fab Factory to see what their price is for this work. I know they've done some in the past and have a jig set up for this.

    There is a good thread on e90post for this upgrade.
     
  18. doublespaces

    doublespaces Administrator

    AZ
    2009 E93 335i
    I've browsed some of them. I seemed to notice a couple different ways to do this and read about some people trying then giving up(HPAutoworks?) but it seemed a bit hazy and not definitive as to the best method based on what I encountered.

    If there was a way we could have this done for us or the steps outlined in fair detail over here, that would be great!
     
  19. LMB335is

    LMB335is Lurker

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    FOB FL
    13 335is
    I've done this complete setup. F30 M Performance front and rear with the M3 master cylinder. I was the beta for Fab Factory and they designed the jig off of my calipers. The price was more than reasonable considering they had to start from scratch. I would guess their pricing is still very reasonable while still needed to recoup the time spent from the original layout. 20170126_112020.jpg 12966527_931039337016962_1100900027_n.jpg 12988078_931039343683628_562979900_n.jpg
     

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