Maybe he has no desire to do so ?
You are missing the point entirely.
DIY BL Coil Fix
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You are missing the point entirely.
Is it just the one socket that is 3d printed or both? Because the r8 coil socket can be purchased
Companies aren't required to tell you how they make the parts they sell you. By and large, that's not something the customer needs, or has a right, to know. In this case, because the connectors seem to be failing left and right, I would agree that it should have been disclosed that they were not a durable item, why, and how long it will be before you're shipped a quality replacement free of charge once they're manufactured. It's looking like he just made all of these as cheaply as he could to essentially crowd fund a better replacement without telling anyone that was the goal...all of this assuming that he is moving to an injection molded connector.
As for 3d printing metal...unless you're making parts that you couldn't otherwise cast or machine, it's not worth it, and won't be anytime soon. Currently, any 3d printed metal part will still need to go through post processing, which is going to be one or more of the following at least: sintering, final machining, slurry honing. It's definitely a branch of the 3d printing arena to keep an eye on, but it's just not quite there yet imo.
What all is between the R8 wire side connector and the BMW coil replica connector on the harness? If it's basically just a patch harness, then someone should just post the part numbers to the connector, the numbers for the pins, and make a quick diagram of the current harness being sold and then we'll have a solution...
Or just replace cheap 3 pin sockets with a different molded set from something else?
Someone with a harness could tell you because they would have the part number listed on it if it wasnt 3d printed.
Someone with a harness could also take it apart and post up photos, then we could disseminate it and make our own kits. Instead of making a harness clip users could choose to unpin from the stock harness and repin it into the r8 harness and that cuts out the need for 3d printing these.
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@fmorelli care to do a little more documentation for the community? Good opportunity to provide a FULL fix.
We are planning to build a few harnesses once the PU connectors become available from Precision. More than glad to post up all the information when that happens. I believe Precision is not that far off from having them available.
Filippo
Filippo
I'm not missing the point. Some of the people in here are acting like they have never modded anything before. Holy shit an aftermarket part that doesn't fit like OEM? NO FUCKING WAY.
Guess what? Aftermarket shit rarely fits. Often times things need to be slightly adjusted for them to work right, this is true for most vendors. This dude did us a huge favor offering an alternative and you guys are shitting all over him. If you hate his product so much either build your own that's better or move to a competitor's.
Most of the mods on your car took a few revisions to get right. Buster is running Fuel IT's shit which is the king of overpriced and he is bitching about a $300 wiring harness?
Maybe if you didnt assume shit you'd actually be smarter than most. I never bought any of my fuel it stuff. It came free when i purchased my car, so get your facts straight. I could have easily taken my fuel kit diy's and started making kits, but i didnt want to get into that. If you buy a kit that says plug and play it means its plug and play, not you need to hack up this hack up that and hope the plugs dont break on you in the process. Continue on defending him all you want, it doesnt change the facts.
Looks like we might have a oem type plug and play kit here soon.
https://store.vacmotorsports.com/ignition-projects-ignition-coil-set-bmw-s54-p3730.aspx
This kit is for the S54, but fits our cars too. At least according to this it says s54 and n54 run the same coils
http://www.bimmerworld.com/About-Us/BMW-Ignition-Coil-Info/
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Yep. So I went shopping overseas (love the Internet lol) and ordered up some connectors that looked close. When they came in, right triangle wrong 3-spade dimensions. But then Precision Raceworks decided to have the triangle plug made - I assume those dudes are much smarter than me and if the connector could be purchased, the would not have have paid to have the mold/connectors made.
So we are waiting on that. Barry Battle had some comments on the wires also, and some other stuff. He will fab the few harnesses we need and we'll post up the information and supply stuff so that others can choose to do this if they wish.
Filippo
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I appreciate the work Alex did. I don't expect perfection. But I also understand how others are not happy. I just chalk it up to win some lose some. He did some work to make all this come together, for sure. Sadly the coils didn't even come close to fitting, and the harnesses have significant issues in that they almost instantly break. That's a far cry from "holy shit an aftermarket part that doesn't fit like OEM" ... or "things need to be slightly adjusted". BTW did you happen to see how extensive the modifications had to be on the R8 coils? "Slightly" is not a word I would use to describe the change. And the harness ... not "slight" either - the 6 connectors that break each have an integrated IC that is cased in epoxy ... it is going to be a fair bit of work to fix the harness; enough so that we'll build it from scratch.
I can understand that some people are angry. I'm not ... but yeah unfortunately the BL product seems to have been a well-intended ... road to hell paved with good intentions scenario.
Filippo
Honestly, it sounds like modding cars isn't for many of you. Modding the coils is way less involved than a ton of things on our cars: inlets, valve cover gasket replacement, etc. etc.
People on this platform are so pathetic PR had to redesign their coils too to make them PnP because the millenials couldn't figure out how to depin a plug. Had to laugh at that one....
You guys bitching should all go buy M3s and leave them stock
After this last go-around, you're probably not surprised that I'm skeptical. Lots and lots of people assumed these coils worked because they fired the spark plug. They couldn't see what they couldn't see and didn't think to take measurements and actually figure out if swapping parts would actually work.
I would not trust cross-compatibility commentary unless the vendor can back it up with the research that no one else seems to have done.
While I'm being Mr. Skeptic, lol, I'll also point out that "compatibility" may not go both ways - a plug designed for the N54 may work on an S54, but an S54 plug may not work on an N54. As we discovered, pushing them in the hole and see if the car runs is not a test of "working".
Both the diameter of the shaft and the fact that the shaft is not perpendicular to the cylinder head makes the first revision of mods posted simply not work ... in other words ... there are gotchas.
Filippo
im curious what parts you ordered? do you have photos? Where you trying to order the part that connects to the bmw harness or the r8 harness?
This is true, but bmw lists the same part number for the elder plugs that fit both our cars and there engines. If it wasnt for that I'd be sceptical too lol.
