Oh yeah! Fack! You're the guy that won the vaporware.Don't I know this to be the truth.....
Do I need the manifold from the raffle, no not at all but it would be nice see it come to fruition
CES Motorsport - SteedSpeed Twin Scroll Manifold Part2
- Thread starter doublespaces
- Start date
Don't I know this to be the truth.....
Do I need the manifold from the raffle, no not at all but it would be nice see it come to fruition
Should have taken a diesel mani and just re-sold it like I did
Should have taken a diesel mani and just re-sold it like I did
Ha I talked to Leen, I still have an option of any manifold I want but never pulled the trigger just yet. I just might do that though to support my chump car.
nooooo old strong! You are the only tether keeping this manifold together lol
A little more info about this on FB... This 4th gen steed manifold looks like it's the winner! Finally! Been pleased so far with the results after throwing the car back together in just a few days to make the SCT event! More updates to follow...
Still waiting to see it spool faster than a Motiv kit and make more power up top. I guess Leen wasn't able to fit the efr like he was adamant he could after all. Good to see it finally running though.
Not saying it isn't. Leen was just a complete douche when he first started on about how he would have this kit out in 3 months tops and that it would out perform every other kit in every way...when he knew nothing about the platform at the time.
I'd like to see the gen2 3582 making 750+ when they get fueling.
You also have to consider that spool will improve when E85 is used.
You also have to consider that spool will improve when E85 is used.
In my experience, these are not people that come from the BMW world, but from other turbo worlds I'd surmise. Moving from old school BMW world to the new-school turbo BMW world, this kind of observation no longer surprises me.
Filippo
Nice to see it out...anyone want to guess on cost?
I'm going to say 7k starting. Which is much more than it should cost mind you. I doubt many are willing to pay what CES is going to charge: http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/190.html
As much as I like the idea of a Steed Speed manifold for the N54 unless he is willing to sell them alone so people can make their own kits you are not going to see many installed which is a shame.
2k turbo
$750 manifold
1k in misc. block offs, downpipe, wastegate, etc
1,250 in profit/margin
sell at 5k.
I'm going to say 7k starting. Which is much more than it should cost mind you. I doubt many are willing to pay what CES is going to charge: http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/190.html
As much as I like the idea of a Steed Speed manifold for the N54 unless he is willing to sell them alone so people can make their own kits you are not going to see many installed which is a shame.
2k turbo
$750 manifold
1k in misc. block offs, downpipe, wastegate, etc
1,250 in profit/margin
sell at 5k.
If I was going to spend 7k+ on a turbo kit, I'd be looking at a motiv setup. Been waiting on the CES kit forever. Not holding my breath anymore.
That'll be easy considering the Gen 2 GTX3582r are 67mm turbos compare to the gen 1 62mm
Motiv new turbo kit is coming out soon they're adding t4 flange to their manifold so you can run bigger turbos that will support up to 1200whp
I'm happy to see another bottom-mount kit actually hit the market considering Motiv is the only one still available in 2018, but unfortunately I think most people are going to have the same line of thought. If it's going to be within spitting distance of the pricerange that a company like Motiv has a kit for, I just don't know that many people are going to adopt it at this point. I truly hope I'm wrong because I like seeing different builds, but people on this platform seem to typically fall into two categories: A) they'll go with whatever is the popular, "groupthink" brand and setup for the route they want once they save up enough money (which will be the tried-and-true Motiv kit for bottom mount) or B) they have enough money & time + other cars that they can handle the downtime and cost to throw on the biggest, most-powerful setup currently available (which will probably always be a topmount for the N54).
From a pure power standpoint this is obviously impressive, but I really wish a company like Motiv who likes to push the envelope would be focusing on putting that power to the ground right now. We have one car in the 9s and he's using a two-speed transmission from 6 decades ago. Everyone else who even gets close to 1200hp is going to either go through transmissions like the rest of us go through spark plugs, or they're going to start competing for longest lasting multi-gear burnout on drag radials.
Pretty sure Motiv has the hp and RQ record, at least for a single turbo. They also don't run 1/4 miles races, they stick to 1/2 mile and track racing with their 135 racecar.
Yeah like I said, they're an impressive company and I dig what they're doing, but I don't think any of that info contradicts my points either tbh.
The average N54 owner still won't be able to put that power down in a useful way right now. Motiv might be able to (or rather, *probably will* if they're designing that kit) but there's a big difference between a performance company's shop car and Joe Shmo's street or even dedicated track car. Tony was able to hit 800+whp 900wtq on a twin setup without breaking the trans and even he was of the opinion that none of us would ever be able to pull off the same unfortunately.
I'm not trying to discredit them at all - actually I'm a huge fan of Motiv - I was just saying I would personally like to see more reliable and accessible drivetrain options rather than a kit allowing me to throw another 400hp at a car that can't make full use of its current power levels anyway.
Similar threads
- Poll
