NEW PURE N54 UPGRADE TURBOS **NO CORE CHARGE**

twinturbos

Specialist
Jan 1, 2019
88
I ordered a set of the new 700whp pures. We shall see how that goes. I have no ETA on arrival so far, waiting on an answer from N54tuning.
 
  • Like
Reactions: matreyia

matreyia

Captain
Apr 19, 2017
1,099
Hmm that's kinda a generalization I don't think is true and there is no way you will even know the metallurgy of any housing unless you take your oem turbos and send them out. It's no wonder Sub 1k VSR balanced china turbos is so temping to so many people.

It would be nice if Pure or even @Mike @ XPH who is pushing them would chime in but only crickets.
Pure, vargas, mmp all use chinese parts.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Roll up or pull up

Lexxan

New Member
Nov 6, 2016
7
Delran, NJ
Chinese doesn't automatically mean bad but public relations is everything.

Right now I'm stuck between buying the Pure 700's and a single kit. It's a hard choice because I would like to have more information than "they exist" and two cropped, blurry dyno sheets.
 

twinturbos

Specialist
Jan 1, 2019
88
Chinese doesn't automatically mean bad but public relations is everything.

Right now I'm stuck between buying the Pure 700's and a single kit. It's a hard choice because I would like to have more information than "they exist" and two cropped, blurry dyno sheets.
I was stuck considering the same thing but then pure came out with the cheap 700s which are basically half the price of a single so i just went with it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lexxan

twinturbos

Specialist
Jan 1, 2019
88
I was stuck considering the same thing but then pure came out with the cheap 700s which are basically half the price of a single so i just went with it.
Sorry guys I basically just changed my mind thanks to this thread and the fact that I know I would regret it long term. I switched to the docrace 6266 BB. Good luck to those of you who are going this route.
 
  • 2Like
Reactions: island road and Torgus

matreyia

Captain
Apr 19, 2017
1,099
Sorry guys I basically just changed my mind thanks to this thread and the fact that I know I would regret it long term. I switched to the docrace 6266 BB. Good luck to those of you who are going this route.
You know, if Pure would just sacrifice one set of these and cut them in half to show true inner diameter and internal surface smoothness quality, I think more people would take a chance on trying them.

Rob from RB cut some chinese cast units in half to show they were actually smaller inner diameter than advertised. That was all the proof I needed to be more cautious and do more research beforenpulling the trigger on upgraded turbos.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Torgus

Lexxan

New Member
Nov 6, 2016
7
Delran, NJ
You know, if Pure would just sacrifice one set of these and cut them in half to show true inner diameter and internal surface smoothness quality, I think more people would take a chance on trying them.

Rob from RB cut some chinese cast units in half to show they were actually smaller inner diameter than advertised. That was all the proof I needed to be more cautious and do more research beforenpulling the trigger on upgraded turbos.
The only reason I haven’t brought anything at all yet is because the only data on these so far is two fuzzy dyno charts. I would love to go with them and be able to do an LSD at the same time but if nothing happens I’m just going to get a single.
 
  • Like
Reactions: matreyia

matreyia

Captain
Apr 19, 2017
1,099
any update on these?
I thnk I am going get the Steamspeed turbos that use the same cast as the CG but custom usa built innards. Spools like CG lites but with big power. I been in touch with a dealer in Washington that has a channel on youtube showing dyno stuff.
 

Rob09msport

Captain
Oct 28, 2017
1,176
Monroe CT
I thnk I am going get the Steamspeed turbos that use the same cast as the CG but custom usa built innards. Spools like CG lites but with big power. I been in touch with a dealer in Washington that has a channel on youtube showing dyno stuff.
I would be careful of claims like that cause usually you can't get one without giving up the other so same spool is same power. Yes you can improve with better quality and so on but gc lites aren't using garbage internals and make big power already so if your looking for bigger power you should expect less response.
 

island road

Specialist
Nov 21, 2016
81
Boston
I thnk I am going get the Steamspeed turbos that use the same cast as the CG but custom usa built innards. Spools like CG lites but with big power. I been in touch with a dealer in Washington that has a channel on youtube showing dyno stuff.
SteamSpeed what is this a locomotive company....
 

matreyia

Captain
Apr 19, 2017
1,099
I would be careful of claims like that cause usually you can't get one without giving up the other so same spool is same power. Yes you can improve with better quality and so on but gc lites aren't using garbage internals and make big power already so if your looking for bigger power you should expect less response.
I agree, but so far there have been identical claims from users in the washington area...we shall see when I review them this year.

It does not help that CG gen2 are not for sale anymore...not a good sign. The frustrating thing is nobody...including pure and Steamspeed has posted any reviews or dynos for the n54.
 

Blaster3500

Corporal
Nov 5, 2016
152
SC
I agree, but so far there have been identical claims from users in the washington area...we shall see when I review them this year.

It does not help that CG gen2 are not for sale anymore...not a good sign. The frustrating thing is nobody...including pure and Steamspeed has posted any reviews or dynos for the n54.
When did they pull them? They are still listed on the VTT website and show on stock.
 

Rob09msport

Captain
Oct 28, 2017
1,176
Monroe CT
I agree, but so far there have been identical claims from users in the washington area...we shall see when I review them this year.

It does not help that CG gen2 are not for sale anymore...not a good sign. The frustrating thing is nobody...including pure and Steamspeed has posted any reviews or dynos for the n54.
You mean gc right making sure I not missing different turbo.
 
May 27, 2019
15
Thanks... let me see something. You know what's weird why the 3 series dont have hybrid or TD04 Borg Warner upgrade. I mean you would think our upgrades would have better quality turbos. But I understand from a business stand point... the use of Chinese made products. Cutting cost is a must to a business surviving today. I know Chinese mass produce consumer products... but I will not jump on the bandwagon I say ALL Chinese products are garbage. I feel if your using Chinese made turbine frames or whatever your turbos should not be to expensive. Some of these aftermarket turbo kits are way to much. If I can purchase a frakenturbo 21bi upgrade with metal outlets for 1500 and get the same power level as say pure 600 and last as long then godamnit it's a no brainer. I have a 2010 335i e90 I just bought 1 month ago in good shape. I've been researching companies throughly and yes some are up pricing the same damn product as their competitors at a 20 to 50 percent price increase. Cause the n54 community has blow them up. I look for quality and reliability not popular. Also I know as a car enthusiast for many years price doesnt signify quality.
 
Top