N54 Stock DME Flex Fuel

JOEinSD

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In my photo, the blue thing in the small envelope at the top of the image....

I have no idea what that is.

That's a Posi-tap for tapping wires.
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3BarEvo8

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Got mine today nice looking kit... i plan to install the ethanol sensor this weekend. I can plumb the wiring when mhd releases the software.
 
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fmorelli

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Mine arrived yesterday @ Barry's shop. Now just waiting for the MHD piece. Fuelab filter and fittings arrived today for the Fuel system upgrade. We'll get to work on it next week.

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danasn

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and mine didn't even ship yet.. :( Order #MMS18109x Mar 11, 2018 09:48:59 EDT

Did they post installation instructions or is it included with the kit ?
 

blisstik

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I've got the Boost Box installed now. I'm getting the Fu3l-It LPFP line and sensor installed next week, route the FF wire harness to the DME box along with the AIC1. You'll want to do this while its on the lift!

Just keep it disconnected until MHD is released. Even then, we'll need a base AIC1 map and a base FF map.
 

JemarClyde9

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What is the most cost effective way to go full E85? I have recently just got back into a 335i from a long break and it looks like things have changed. Can I get away with a stage 2 lpfp and stock injectors? Or are index 12 injectors required?
 

blisstik

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If you're upgrading turbos, you'll need dual lpfp and port injection. That's the proper way and it is not cost effective. Cars and modding in general is a money pit.

What is the most cost effective way to go full E85? I have recently just got back into a 335i from a long break and it looks like things have changed. Can I get away with a stage 2 lpfp and stock injectors? Or are index 12 injectors required?
 

JemarClyde9

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If you're upgrading turbos, you'll need dual lpfp and port injection. That's the proper way and it is not cost effective. Cars and modding in general is a money pit.

How about if I am staying stock turbos? Is it not worth going full e85? Anyway to avoid port injection? I know how it is, my 03 cobra is the race car. My 335 is my daily.
 

NoQuarter

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The tiny little card that has the schematic...that's your instructions. Seems fairly straight forward. Not extremely detailed, but pretty straight forward.

yep saw that. I am sure there are at least 10 of us that can figure out what to do. Pretty lame though after all this time that that is what is provided. Many rookies have figured out how to "tune" with an android app. I'm fairly confident there are many that have never wired anything into their DME nor even know where to find it.
 
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langsbr

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Proper way can be argued. I'd say a single or double barrel shotgun is the proper way to go full e85, but it's not cheap either.
 

dyezak

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Proper way can be argued. I'd say a single or double barrel shotgun is the proper way to go full e85, but it's not cheap either.

Double Walbro, with dual Holly Hydramats, going through upgraded fuel lines, through an e85 sensor, with a flex fuel tune, into a VTT Double Barrel.

Yes, I spent a lot on fuel supply when you add it all up ($2800~).
Yes, I'm still stock turbskies.
Yes, I'm sick of being on stock turbos.
Yes, I've got one more project to complete before moving to an upgraded turbskie.
Yes, I watch Cleetus.
Yes, I'll do a guide this afternoon for everyone on how to install this fuel content analyser.
 

Abacus38

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What is the most cost effective way to go full E85? I have recently just got back into a 335i from a long break and it looks like things have changed. Can I get away with a stage 2 lpfp and stock injectors? Or are index 12 injectors required?

Depends what size turbo your running and how much power you want to make. If 700whp and under the cheapest route would be Omar Vader DW400 Bucketless pump for 450 and MMP PI kit. For under 1400 you'll have setup capable of running 700whp on e85
 

danasn

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No instructions in the kit

The tiny little card that has the schematic...that's your instructions. Seems fairly straight forward. Not extremely detailed, but pretty straight forward.

Thanks guys! I do remember seeing small card in the pictures.. I wish it was better/visual instructions for all people considering this.
 

ISnotM3

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So if Im not running PI just single W450 and single shotgun, where would I run the blue AIC tmap wire? Anyone know?
 

blisstik

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You would not have the AIC1 blue wire since you don't have the AIC1. I'm guessing you just leave it alone.

Got mine today nice looking kit... i plan to install the ethanol sensor this weekend. I can plumb the wiring when mhd releases the software.

So if Im not running PI just single W450 and single shotgun, where would I run the blue AIC tmap wire? Anyone know?
 

dyezak

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I am not a very videogenic person. I don't think in terms of video production. I'll try and do a video for you guys but I might end up just grabbing still captures out of the videos and do a written guide.

Also, 90% of the work is covered by Fuel-It and their Fuel Line + ECA + E% Sensor kit videos. All this Motiv kit will add is the different wiring harness to the DME and the re-pinning of the connectors. I'll make sure to spend most of my time covering that portion.