Martial and I are finalizing the last piece of the puzzle before release, which is OTS map automation for FF. I imagine those who choose to run an OTS map with this will have a beta / refinement period following release. Those who self tune or have a good tuner obviously will not need this.
N54 Stock DME Flex Fuel
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While I understand the need for OTS map automation, I think you guys should think of a staggered approach instead of all-in-one. It sounds like you guys were ready to go but then thought of "what if we add this cool feature" then it turns into cascading delays.
I propose you guys release an update so all those who already have the hardware and ready to wire it up can get their custom tunes going. Most of us are going to be in that boat.
Afterwhich, you can implement the OTS map automation. This way you can put out all the fires in THIS thread. Motiv is getting blamed even though they have fulfilled their end of the deal.
Otherwise, I can see this being a July or after release after all the testing.
Let me just say what most are thinking here: nobody gives a sh#t about OTS maps
I propose you guys release an update so all those who already have the hardware and ready to wire it up can get their custom tunes going. Most of us are going to be in that boat.
Afterwhich, you can implement the OTS map automation. This way you can put out all the fires in THIS thread. Motiv is getting blamed even though they have fulfilled their end of the deal.
Otherwise, I can see this being a July or after release after all the testing.
Let me just say what most are thinking here: nobody gives a sh#t about OTS maps
As soon as possible
I think you all underestimate how eager I am to get this out.False. The large majority of MHD users and sales are OTS.
I just installed my hardware and left all wiring unconnected. The hardware is visibly an upgrade from the stock so it was good to do so. However, be advised, there are caveats of installation regarding small annoying issues.
1. fuel connector to left side fuel lid gets impeded by the ring lid and the lid must be rotated slightly so the fuel connector clears the catch nubs of the ring lid. If you do not rotate the nubs on the lid out of the way, you will not be able to install the fuel line connector to the fuel lid receptacle of the car.
2. AN6 connectors are a pain to install without removing the hpfp hard line. You cannot tighten the connectors properly unless you free the hpfp line to have room to maneuver your wrenches. I used an adjustable wrench to tighten the connectors after loosening the hpfp hard line away from the car structure.
3. Intake valve, charge pipe, air intake box and throttle body all need to be removed to access hpfp hard line connector.
How does one become a beta tester for ff? I definitely do not want to wait for beta testing to be over.
Anyone want to buy my kit for any reason before I process a return? Un-opened Flex Fuel kit and Sensor + engine bay short line upgrade. PM me. I'll probly be selling by car in the fall due to expanding family. Was really excited to run this at least for the summer it's looking like I wouldn't have much time to run it.
If you had spent more time in the garage you wouldn’t have this expanding family problem.
So...how is this stuff going to work?
You get an e85 custom tune from a tuner, after you select the MHD option for e85 sensor? And the tuner only has to tune for e85 and that's it? When you put in regular gasoline the ECU will adjust automatically according to the ratio that the sensor reads?
Or do we get both an e85 tune as well as a normal gasoline tune and leave it in the MHD custom folder?
I am not really clear on this.
You get an e85 custom tune from a tuner, after you select the MHD option for e85 sensor? And the tuner only has to tune for e85 and that's it? When you put in regular gasoline the ECU will adjust automatically according to the ratio that the sensor reads?
Or do we get both an e85 tune as well as a normal gasoline tune and leave it in the MHD custom folder?
I am not really clear on this.
I'd recommend you guys check out the 'Threadmarks' which are next to the page numbers of this thread. There are several posts pinned there from this thread which are probably related to your questions.
thanks for making me discover this wonderful feature, but still cant find the awnser i am looking for.
After discussion with my tuner he stated that 2 complete new tunes will be required to make this work.. (also adding METH PI)
one for pump and one for e85mix so twice the work.
just want to confirm what are our options for custom tunes start all over again?
After discussion with my tuner he stated that 2 complete new tunes will be required to make this work.. (also adding METH PI)
one for pump and one for e85mix so twice the work.
just want to confirm what are our options for custom tunes start all over again?
So while we are waiting with baited breath... So ... two tunes. 93 octane and .... full E85? If one was tuning on the dyno, how does this work? Drain the tank of 93 octane, fill with E85, then run the car until it clears the old gas?
Filippo
Filippo
I’d think draining the tank would be a total PITA. And with E85 not always being 85% ethanol, one idea is to tune 93 octane with about two gallons of 93 octane, run it down to one gallon and then add a 5 gallon can of E99 from VP Racing Fuels or wherever. Doing the math you should end up with close to 85% ethanol which should be verified with an ethanol content sensor. Then tune for E85.
